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How Phil Collins Joined Genesis

On 4 August 1970, Phil Collins officially became the drummer for Genesis. Here’s the story of how he landed the gig, and how it all began with a swim.

‘Looking for someone…’

By the summer of 1970, Genesis had just suffered what they later described as the biggest loss in their career: guitarist and founding member Anthony Phillips had decided to leave the band. Though the music on Trespass was complete, Ant’s struggle with stage fright made it impossible for him to continue performing. With his departure, Genesis (then a quartet) decided it was time to look for a new guitarist and, crucially, a new drummer.

Up until that point, they had gone through three different drummers. So, they placed an anonymous ad in Melody Maker, the go-to magazine for musicians in the UK:

‘TONY STRATTON SMITH is looking for 12-STRING GUITARIST who can also play lead; plus DRUMMER sensitive to acoustic music.’

One aspiring young drummer in London happened to see it: Phil Collins.

Answering the call

Phil had previously played in a band called Flaming Youth (originally named Hickory) and released one album with them. But the band never took off, rarely performed live, and left Phil frustrated and eager for something new. Determined to pursue a career as a professional drummer, he began scanning Melody Maker for new opportunities.

He recognised the name of the band’s manager, Tony Stratton-Smith, from his earlier music ventures and knew he could often be found at the bar in London’s Marquee Club. So Phil turned up and asked directly if he could audition for the band. Stratton-Smith responded that the band insisted on auditions for everyone. The band, he revealed, was Genesis. Phil had seen their name in the back pages of Melody Maker listings, but didn’t know much about their music.

At the time, Genesis was a trio: Tony Banks on keyboards, Peter Gabriel on vocals, and Mike Rutherford on guitar and bass. Phil recalls calling them and speaking with Peter Gabriel:

‘He said ‘Yes, uhm, come down to my parents’ house in Chobham.”

Peter was intrigued when Phil mentioned he had played with George Harrison. (Phil would later admit that all he had done was play percussion on one of George’s sessions, but the name-drop got his foot in the door.)

The audition (and the swimming pool)

Phil and his friend, guitarist Ronnie Caryl, drove out to the Gabriels’ countryside home near Woking on a hot summer day. The house had a pool and was surrounded by fields. Ronnie was hoping to join the band too.

Phil remembers seeing Mike Rutherford in what looked like a crushed velvet dressing gown and slippers. (Mike insists it was just a swimsuit and robe – they were by the pool, after all.) Tony Banks barely spoke and struck Phil as a ‘tortured artist.’ Peter Gabriel seemed eccentric.

They’d arrived early, and there were still a few drummers ahead of Phil. While waiting, they were invited to take a swim.

‘Being there early and having two or three drummers ahead of me, I didn’t know what the conversation was, what they were saying to each other, but I could hear the music. The same piece of music being played two or three times and the same piece of music being played with the next guy two or three times. So by the time I came up to play, I kind of felt I knew what I was doing.’

The band played pieces that showed the different styles Genesis was experimenting with: delicate passages, heavier sections, and more experimental parts. Phil listened to the Trespass album in the living room and was struck by the harmonies that reminded him of Crosby, Stills & Nash. He later said he would’ve joined them even if he hadn’t liked the music: he simply needed a job.

Thanks to the sneak preview while in the pool, Phil nailed the audition.

Peter Gabriel later said:

‘Just the way he sat down on the stool, I knew he was going to be good. Some people have this sort of confidence about what they do.’

After they left, Ronnie thought Phil had failed the audition but that he had done great. As we know, it turned out the other way around. Phil got the job. Ronnie didn’t, but he did end up playing in Phil’s solo band years later.

Fitting into the band

Phil, then just 19, joined Genesis in August 1970. The band took a short holiday before getting back together to rehearse in a space called Farnham Maltings, which Mike’s father helped them rent. Over six weeks, they began working on what would become Nursery Cryme.

Phil immediately noticed the cultural gap between him and the others. He was a working-class lad with a grammar and stage school background. The others were Charterhouse-educated public school boys. He recalls seeing Tony Banks and thinking he looked like Beethoven with his long hair.

Peter Gabriel, meanwhile, had a bass drum next to his mic stand, which he would bang on spontaneously, even out of rhythm. This annoyed Phil.

The atmosphere in the band was intense. Tensions ran high, especially between Peter and Tony.

‘In the middle of a conversation, suddenly someone would get up and slam a guitar on the floor and walk out‘, Phil remembers. ‘I thought ‘What?’ Someone had said something to upset somebody else. Two hours later this person would come back and we’d start playing again. Suddenly there’d be ‘Oh, f*** you’ and somebody else walked out. It was very highly strung.’

Peter Gabriel adds:

‘I would often be at loggerheads with Tony Banks, and Phil would always sit on the fence, he would never want to come into the argument.’

Phil’s different background influenced more than just the sound. It affected the group’s dynamics. He realised early on that his role included defusing arguments with humour, a skill that came naturally from his time at stage school.

Mike Rutherford recalls:

‘Apart from the humour, he’s got a very laid-back approach. He was very serious about his work, but had a very laid-back approach to life, which I think helped us a little bit.‘

Phil may have thought he was joining a band that held rehearsals by a pool in the countryside. In reality, he’d just signed up for years of rough touring in a van. But the chemistry was right and the rest is history.

Title photo: Genesis – ‘The Knife’ (single cover).

Sources

Phil Collins – A Life Less Ordinary (documentary, 2002)

Genesis – Sum of the Parts (documentary, 2014)

Philipp Röttgers – Two eras of Genesis? The development of a rock band (book, 2015)

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Ray Wilson Announced as New Genesis Frontman

On June 6, 1997, Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford announced the new lead singer of Genesis following Phil Collins’ departure: 28-year-old Ray Wilson.

When Phil Collins revealed in March 1996 that he would be leaving Genesis after 25 years, fans were eager to learn who would step into his shoes. Genesis had already weathered the departure of their original frontman, Peter Gabriel, back in 1975. Now, two decades later, Tony Banks (keyboards) and Mike Rutherford (guitars), the remaining founding members, were determined to carry on once more.

They began writing and recording new material, searching for a vocalist who could help them shape the band’s next chapter. Rumors swirled in the music press, speculating about possible replacements. Then, on June 6, 1997, it was official: Ray Wilson would be the new voice of Genesis.

Who is Ray Wilson?

Born in Dumfries, Scotland, on September 8, 1968, Ray had previously fronted the band Guaranteed Pure and was best known for his work with Stiltskin, whose hit single “Inside” reached number one in 1994, thanks in part to its use in a Levi’s commercial. So, while Ray wasn’t an unknown figure in music, the stylistic gap between Stiltskin and Genesis left both his fans and Genesis fans surprised and cautious.

Reflecting on the moment in the Songbook DVD, Ray recalled:
‘I was in my little studio writing songs. It was ten in the morning, I was making a coffee, and Tony Smith, the manager of Genesis, was on the phone: ‘Would you like to come and audition to replace Phil Collins?”

By then, Phil Collins’ massive solo success had blurred the public’s perception of Genesis. It was often seen as “Phil Collins and his band”. Taking over that role and shifting that image would be no easy task.

Calling All Stations

Ray joined Tony and Mike at The Farm, Genesis’ private studio in Surrey, to begin recording what would become Calling All Stations. Most of the songs had already been written by Banks and Rutherford, but Ray contributed several ideas of his own. The result was a darker, more melancholic record. The vibrant energy and accessible pop sensibility Phil had brought to the group were now absent, and with it, part of the familiar Genesis chemistry.

Still, Ray’s emotionally rich vocals suited the mood of the new material. His voice, more reminiscent of Peter Gabriel than Phil Collins, blended well with the brooding tone of the songs. Calling All Stations, like its predecessor We Can’t Dance, was produced by Nick Davis.

Three singles were released from the album: “Congo”, “Shipwrecked”, and “Not About Us”. Ray co-wrote the latter, along with “Small Talk” and “There Must Be Some Other Way.” Drums on the record were provided by Israeli session musician Nir Zidkyahu and Nick D’Virgilio from American prog-rock band Spock’s Beard.

Despite Ray’s strong performance, critics were less than kind. NME wrote dismissively that “the world doesn’t care enough about Genesis to make the effort” and claimed people had “forgotten why they were once any good.” Q magazine criticized the album for offering “just darkness, confusion, individual isolation,” calling it “one-paced and one-dimensional.”

Live in 1998: Ray on Tour

On tour, however, Ray proved his versatility. The setlist spanned the entire Genesis catalog from the pop-era hits like “Invisible Touch”, “No Son Of Mine”, and an acoustic version of “Follow You Follow Me”, to later epics such as “Home by the Sea”, and even classic Gabriel-era tracks like “Carpet Crawlers” and “The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.” New material from Calling All Stations also held up well live. Some songs, like the title track, even sounded better on stage.

Ray, Mike, and Tony were joined on tour by Nir Zidkyahu on drums and Anthony Drennan on guitar and bass, effectively filling the shoes of Chester Thompson and Daryl Stuermer.

Commercial Struggles

Despite reaching No. 2 in the UK, Calling All Stations underperformed in the U.S., peaking at just No. 54. Ticket sales also fell short of expectations. As a result, the production and scale of the tour were scaled back and the planned American leg was cancelled entirely.

After the 1998 tour, Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford decided to put Genesis on indefinite hold.

Looking Back

Although this wasn’t the end of Genesis, in 1998 it certainly felt like it. And sadly, Ray Wilson, thrust into a difficult situation, was unfairly blamed by some critics and fans for the band’s lack of commercial success during this era.

But this criticism doesn’t hold up. Ray brought a unique voice and delivered both the new material and the classics whether originally sung by Peter Gabriel or Phil Collins with emotion and distinction.

Following the end of Genesis, Ray took time to regroup before launching a solo career. He has since released several solo albums and continues to perform live, often including Genesis songs in his setlists.

Title photo: Ray Wilson live in Dortmund in 2017 (Photo: André Wilms of ‘The Photography Of Mister Ilms)‘.

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Phil Collins’ First Show as Genesis Frontman

In 1975, Peter Gabriel left Genesis, leaving the band without a lead singer. After auditioning several vocalists without success, drummer Phil Collins reluctantly stepped up to take on the role. He sang on A Trick of the Tail (1976), the band’s first album after Gabriel’s departure. But while he handled the studio vocals, he wasn’t eager to become the band’s frontman on tour.

This is the story of how Phil Collins took center stage.

Phil Collins Didn’t Want to Be the Singer

A Trick of the Tail proved that Genesis could continue without Peter Gabriel. The album was a success, and Phil’s vocals shone on both the heavier tracks like Dance on a Volcano and the softer moments of Ripples.

Yet, despite his strong performance, Phil had no desire to be the band’s singer. He saw himself first and foremost as a drummer.

‘I’ve always felt the singer was the cheapest gig in the band, ’cause all they had to do was look good and wiggle their bum,’ he later admitted. ‘I always wanted the most respectable part in the group, which was of course the drummer.’1

When it came time to tour the album, Phil hesitated. He agreed to take on the lead vocals under one condition: he needed a drummer he could trust. That drummer was his friend Bill Bruford of Yes, who joined Genesis for the tour.

On March 26, 1976, Genesis played their first show with Phil Collins as frontman in London, Ontario.

Could He Replace Peter Gabriel?

Fans knew from the album that Phil could sing, but how would he handle the older material? Fortunately, his voice was naturally similar to Peter Gabriel’s, and he had already sung backing vocals on many classic Genesis tracks. His performances of songs like The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Firth of Fifth, and Supper’s Ready proved he was up to the challenge.

The new material was also well received. On Robbery, Assault & Battery, Phil brought the song’s Victorian-era story to life with his acting skills, while the instrumental Los Endos became even more powerful live, thanks to the addition of a second drummer.

Bringing in Bill Bruford was the right move. As a respected figure in progressive rock, his presence reassured fans. His intricate playing added a new dimension to Genesis’ music. While Bruford and Collins played off each other in a more unpredictable way, later drummer Chester Thompson would lock in with Phil to create the band’s signature double-drumming style.

A Warm Welcome for the ‘New’ Singer

Genesis fans wanted this lineup to succeed – and they embraced Phil’s new role. He brought a down-to-earth charm and a touch of Monty Python-style humor to the stage. The band seemed more relaxed, with the spotlight no longer focused solely on the singer.

During I Know What I Like, Phil got the other members involved, playfully placing hats on their heads and sharing a mic with Mike Rutherford. He even debuted his now-famous tambourine dance.

Where Peter Gabriel had been the mysterious storyteller, Phil Collins was the approachable everyman. He didn’t weave surreal tales; he spoke to the audience directly. Even Peter himself later said he was happy that Phil took over, recognizing that Phil was a stronger technical singer and had a natural connection with audiences.

Phil was nervous that first night in London, Ontario, but the show was a success. Genesis continued with him as their frontman for the next two decades – except for a brief period in the ’90s when Ray Wilson took over after Phil’s departure.

But that’s another story.

Title photo: Mike Rutherford and Phil Collins of Genesis in 1977. Source: Wikimedia Commons, Jean-Luc Ourlin from Toronto ontario, Canada / CC BY (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0)

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