Where the Sour Turns to Sweet (1969) – Genesis

In June 1969, Genesis’ third single ‘Where the Sour Turns to Sweet’/’In Hiding’ was released on Decca. It was released to raise interest in the LP From Genesis to Revelation, but to no avail.

From Genesis to Revelation

By 1969, Genesis had released two singles on Decca Records: ‘The Silent Sun‘ and ‘A Winter’s Tale‘, both in 1968, both produced by Jonathan King. King had then produced their first proper album From Genesis to Revelation*. At this time, the band consisted of Tony Banks (keyboards), Peter Gabriel (vocals), Anthony Phillips (guitars), Mike Rutherford (guitars and bass) and John Silver (drums). The album became a sort of concept album about the history of mankind, but the music was still far from being progressive. To the band’s disappointment, King added a string arrangement in the production which made the whole album sound very soft.

The album got about the same interest as the previous singles – not very much at all. So it was decided that a single off the album should be released. ‘Where the Sour Turns to Sweet’ was chosen.

Where the Sour Turns to Sweet

The song itself had been in the band’s repertoire for quite some time. They had already recorded it among three other songs in a one-hour session at Regent Studios in London, where many rock legends had recorded, in 1967. Jonathan King had taken them there to record a tape that was sent to Decca Records. The label had been impressed and signed them and King went into the studio with them again, this time to Advision Studios, to produce a reprise of ‘Where the Sour Turns to Sweet’ for their debut single.

The session was disastrous, the band (and the producer) were unexperienced and the idea was abandoned. Then, in 1968, the two other singles and the album were released and finally, in June 1969, the long-delayed ‘Where the Sour Turns to Sweet’ saw the day of light.

On June 27, 1969, the album version of ‘Where the Sour Turns to Sweet’ was released as a single, backed with ‘In Hiding’. It was their third single on Decca Records and also their last, as it was a unsuccessful as its predecessors. There were however, thoughts about releasing a remixed version of ‘In the Beginning’ as single, too, but these plans were never realized.

‘Where the Sour Turns to Sweet’ begins with a bluesy piano phrase and the snapping of fingers, giving it a jazzy swing feel. The added strings by Arthur Greenslade really get in the way of this powerful song. The lyrics are already a bit humorously and Peter Gabriel knows how to emphasize the words and use his voice. It definitely is one of the outstanding tracks of the album and has its charm, only the fade-out seems a bit uninspired.

Tony Banks accosted Tony Blackburn in the street

Tony Banks remembers that he was sent to disc jockey, singer and TV presenter Tony Blackburn to accost him in the street and tell him to play the single on his show. Tony Banks said ‘Well, don’t play the A-side, play the other side’ (‘In Hiding’). It was an embarrassing situation for both of them, but Blackburn was important enough for the band to risk it.

The end of their relationship with Jonathan King

After the album and all the single releases failed to chart and the band moved into a different musical direction than King, their ways parted. They went to the country to think about their future and write new music. Jonathan King however, had given them one lasting legacy: Their name Genesis.

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A Winter’s Tale (1968) – Genesis

On 10 May 1968, Genesis released their second single. Like its predecessor – and its successor – it failed to make an impact. Here’s the story behind A Winter’s Tale.

In 1968, Genesis were still schoolboys. The four classmates from Charterhouse were in their late teens when producer Jonathan King offered them a record deal. Tony Banks (keyboards), Peter Gabriel (vocals), Anthony Phillips (guitar), Mike Rutherford (guitar and bass), and Chris Stewart (drums) agreed. King chose to produce their first album himself, and it was he who came up with the name “Genesis,” symbolising both the band’s beginning and the start of his own career as a producer.

The first singles

Genesis had been writing pop songs while still at school, but by the time they signed their deal, they were already moving towards more adventurous material. Jonathan King, however, preferred straightforward pop. So, to please him, Tony Banks and Peter Gabriel wrote The Silent Sun, a deliberate nod to the Bee Gees, which King loved and released as their debut single. It flopped.

A Winter’s Tale

For their second single, A Winter’s Tale, Tony Banks and Peter Gabriel again collaborated. Like The Silent Sun, it’s a love song, but here, the band sounds more confident, particularly in the soaring chorus. Once again, Peter Gabriel’s distinctive voice takes centre stage, rising above a lush (and somewhat overpowering) string arrangement. Even at this young age, Gabriel’s vocal strength hinted at the frontman he would soon become.

Unfortunately, A Winter’s Tale also failed to chart. It received little radio play and only a couple of published reviews. New Musical Express praised the song’s “pulsating crescendo” and thoughtful lyrics, but continued: “The melody could have done with a little more substance.”1

Mike Rutherford recalls in his autobiography that the band brainstormed ways to boost airplay. Peter Gabriel suggested they hand the single directly to BBC Radio 1 DJ Tony Blackburn. Tony Banks was tasked with waiting outside Broadcasting House. Nervous and unsure, he apparently came across a little too forcefully when Blackburn emerged – likely startling him and not helping their cause.2

From Genesis to Revelation

Shortly after the release of A Winter’s Tale, drummer Chris Stewart left the band and was replaced by John Silver, who would record their debut album From Genesis to Revelation. The album was an ambitious concept piece about the history of mankind, but musically, it still leaned far more towards soft pop than progressive rock. To the band’s disappointment, King added even more lush string arrangements, giving the album a gentle, almost easy-listening feel.

A third single, Where the Sour Turns to Sweet, followed, but like the others, it failed to chart. Eventually, the growing divide between King’s pop sensibilities and the band’s evolving musical ambitions led them to part ways.

What remains from this era is a fascinating and surprisingly strong collection of songs recorded by a band still in their teens. Among them is A Winter’s Tale, a glimpse of what was to come.

(And as a footnote for collectors: there’s a curious story about a cover version of A Winter’s Tale by Rita Pavone’s brother – but that’s a tale for another time.)

  1. Thompson, Dave, Turn it on again. Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins & Genesis. (San Francisco: Backbeat Books, 2005), p. 18 ↩︎
  2. Rutherford, Mike (2014): The Living Years. London: Constable, p. 48. ↩︎

The Silent Sun (1968) – Genesis

In February 1968, Genesis released their debut single, The Silent Sun, on Decca Records. At just 17 years old, Peter Gabriel was already making his mark. Let’s take a closer look at the band’s very first single!

Genesis at Charterhouse

In 1968, Genesis were still students at Charterhouse School. Tony Banks, Peter Gabriel, Mike Rutherford, and Anthony Phillips had formed the band as a way to escape the constraints of school life. At the time, the group operated as two songwriting pairs: Banks and Gabriel on one side, Phillips and Rutherford on the other.

While still at school, they recorded demos and sent them to Jonathan King, a former Charterhouse student who had found success as a musician and producer (his best-known hit being Everyone’s Gone to the Moon). King was particularly impressed by Peter Gabriel’s voice and signed them to Decca Records, intending to produce a full album. However, when the band presented their next batch of demos, he wasn’t impressed.

A Producer Who Loved The Bee Gees

Jonathan King wanted the band to deliver a potential hit. Knowing he was a fan of The Bee Gees, Peter and Tony deliberately wrote a song in their style—The Silent Sun.

‘I tried my best Robin Gibb impersonation,’ Peter later joked.1

King loved it and made it their debut single, later including it on the band’s first album, From Genesis to Revelation.

Musically, The Silent Sun blends folk and pop, with Tony Banks’ piano already playing a central role. The song primarily highlights Peter’s vocals, with orchestral strings added later by King in the studio. It’s also one of the rare official Genesis recordings to feature their original drummer, Chris Stewart.

‘We had been drilled by Jonathan King to write short pop songs, which I resisted,’ Anthony Phillips recalled. ‘I didn’t like The Silent Sun at all.’ He later reflected that it was probably for the best that the song wasn’t a hit: ‘If it had been successful, the band would never have developed its proper style.’2

Tony Banks, however, believed it had the potential to be a great hit. For Peter Gabriel, seeing the name Genesis in Record Mirror was a career-defining moment, while Mike Rutherford fondly remembers the thrill of hearing The Silent Sun on the radio for the first time in Anthony Phillips’ kitchen.

Reviews and Reception

Upon release, the Decca catalogue described The Silent Sun as ‘quietly attractive.’’.3 New Musical Express praised its ‘beautiful flowing arrangement of violins and cellos,’ though they speculated it ‘might be a bit too complex for the average fan.’4

A Single That Failed but a Band That Flourished

Despite their enthusiasm, The Silent Sun failed to chart. The accompanying album, From Genesis to Revelation, was also a commercial failure. Eventually, Genesis parted ways with Jonathan King, allowing them to explore a more adventurous and distinctive musical direction.

As the band gained fame, King repeatedly re-released these early recordings in various formats, capitalizing on Genesis’ later success. But for Genesis themselves, The Silent Sun remains a fascinating footnote in their history—their first step on the road to greatness.

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Sources

ANTHONY PHILLIPS FULL UNCUT INTERVIEW .PT 1:FORMING GENESIS/ EARLY RECORDING/DISCOVERING THEIR SOUND.

Decca Press release.

GENESIS REUNION 2014: THE THREE. Part ONE. NOW FULL UNCUT VERSION ! + improved audio!

Thompson, Dave, Turn it on again. Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins & Genesis. (San Francisco: Backbeat Books, 2005).

  1. GENESIS REUNION 2014: THE THREE. Part ONE. NOW FULL UNCUT VERSION ! + improved audio! ↩︎
  2. ANTHONY PHILLIPS FULL UNCUT INTERVIEW .PT 1:FORMING GENESIS/ EARLY RECORDING/DISCOVERING THEIR SOUND. ↩︎
  3. Decca Press release. ↩︎
  4. Thompson 2005: 17. ↩︎